An interview discussion that explores the science of Zen. Neil Schmitzer-Torbert is a Professor of  Psychology at Wabash College in Crawfordsville, IN where he teaches courses and conducts research on memory and learning.  He is a Zen practitioner and runs a website called the "Neural Buddhist" which explores the intersection of Zen and neuroscience. https://neuralbuddhist.com/ https://scienceofzen.org/ Zen Podcast: https://simplicityzen.com/