Katherine’s been dreading the cold months and the problems they might bring. She asks Jim what to expect and how to prepare. And Alexis Madrigal joins for a live Atlantic Festival taping to share the different winter scenarios with testing and a vaccine. Read Jim’s piece about winter here. And support this show by becoming an Atlantic subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices