Today, we have Kent C Dodds on the show. If you don't know Kent, he's a well known expert in JavaScript, Web Development and Teaching. His courses like Testing JavaScript, Epic React, and Epic Web Dev have helped countless developers uplevel their skills and develop whole new ones. During our conversation, we discussed how he got to start in creating courses in the background on his latest project, Epic Web Dev. We also picked his brain about JavaScript. Why the heck do we have so many JavaScript frameworks? Are we just perpetually dissatisfied with what we have? Or is there a fundamental problem with how the web is actually designed? There's a lot of meat in the bone on this one, and we hope you enjoy it. Show Notes: The Web’s Next Transition https://www.epicweb.dev/the-webs-next-transition Epic Web Conference 2024 CONFERENCE DAY April 11th, 2024 WORKSHOP DAY April 10th, 2024 https://www.epicweb.dev/conf Timestamps 01:46 Kent’s Background 05:38 Epic Web Dev 15:07 Creating an engaging course 19:07 How long does it take to finish the course 23:01 JavaScript and CS 25:47 Things that you should know 29:09 JS frameworks 36:28 Re-building the Web from Scratch? 42:59 PESPA Architecture 53:04 Rapid Fire