Dr. Thema Bryant (therapist, minister, and spoken word artist) and Rainn Wilson give their unique perspective on the duality of faith as both a lifeline and a source of deep trauma for different people. With her background as the former president of the American Psychological Association and her deep involvement in the arts, she explores how her diverse roles enhance her work in mental health and healing. The podcast uncovers Dr. Bryant’s journey to integrating her various talents but also addresses broader issues such as the impact of spirituality on psychological growth and the therapeutic potential of justice and acknowledgment in societal contexts. Thank you to our sponsors! Waking Up app (1st month free!): https://wakingup.com/soulboom Fetzer Institute: https://fetzer.org/