In this episode, Senior Fellow in Defense Studies Peter Garretson interviews Robert Zubrin, founder of the Mars Society, Pioneer Astronautics, and other of the Case for Mars and the Case for Space. They discuss the reasons for America to lead life to be spacefaring and becoming multi-planetary, how spaceflight opens up a limitless future, and how spacefaring ensures a vibrant civilization and culture. They discuss the rise of the private sector, international competition, and the necessary incentives to ensure U.S. leadership. Bob Zubrin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-zubrin-30775b5/ @robert_zubrin Mars Society: https://www.marssociety.org/ Pioneer Astronautics: http://www.pioneerastro.com/ The Case for Mars: The Plan to Settle the Red Planet and Why We Must: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Mars-Plan-Settle-Planet/dp/145160811X The Case for Space: How the Revolution in Spaceflight Opens Up a Future of Limitless Possibility: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Space-Revolution-Spaceflight-Possibility/dp/1633885348