Jeff Solwold and Mary Danielsen discuss pastoring in these times; what does God's Word say about such a high calling? What are some challenges since the world changed in 2020? We also pursue some hard questions about the state of Bible Colleges and Christian Colleges as they navigate the diversity/inclusion road. What does it take to shepherd the flock of God today? What is the responsibility of the flock in supporting their leaders in all humility? This podcast originally aired on 8/3/23. The Upward Call Podcast   Have you tried our newsfeed website? CLICK HERE FOR CTRNN.ORG