Martin Pannier is a French entrepreneur who started the company Primo to help small and medium-sized businesses get their IT work right for new employees. He’s worked as a product leader at iziwork, Gusto and several others. In addition to being a founder he’s also a husband and the father of one young daughter. In our conversation today we discussed: * Raising a daughter in a multicultural family * How to avoid the temptation to view parenting as an accomplishment * Why not to focus on over-optimization of parenting * Maintaining relationships outside of the family when it’s hectic * The balance of two working parents when one is a founder * His most surprising aspects of becoming a Dad * A few things he learned very quickly after his daughter was born * Having a newborn and running a company — Where to find Martin Pannier * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinpannier/ * Primo: https://www.getprimo.com/ Where to find Adam Fishman * FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/ * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/ — In this episode, we cover: [1:37] Welcome [1:51] Background [5:25] Martin’s Childhood [8:25] Martin’s Family [11:58] Did he have to convince his wife to move to France? [15:09] Their decision to start a family [17:23] What it’s like having a newborn & running a company? [21:53] Multicultural parenting styles [25:56] Terrible parenting advice [28:04] Earliest memory of becoming a father [30:07] Parenting as an accomplishment [34:22] What surprised you the most about becoming a dad? [35:39] Diaper changing competition [36:43] What did you learn after having your daughter? [39:34] How he has prioritized maintaining relationships outside the house [41:04] Favorite book to read to Juno? [42:02] Family language in a multilingual household [43:57] How has having child/starting company impacted your life? [45:58] What he hopes for his daughter’s relationship to technology [50:03] What’d he give up to become a dad? [51:39] Mistakes made as a dad [53:25] Where to follow Martin [54:44] Rapid fire / lightning round [1:00:40] Thank you — Show references: iziwork: https://www.iziwork.com/fr/ Gusto: https://gusto.com/ Paris, France: https://www.britannica.com/place/Paris Seine: https://www.britannica.com/place/Seine-River World Bank:https://www.worldbank.org/en/home French Space Agency: https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Engineering_Technology/Centre_National_D_Etudes_Spatiales_CNES Siqi Chen’s Startup Dad Episode: youtube.com/watch?v=I2Nm5Mkj0s0 Sheep In A Jeep: https://www.amazon.com/SHEEP-JEEP-Nancy-Shaw/dp/0395470307 War and Peace: https://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-Vintage-Classics-Tolstoy/dp/1400079985 Where The Wild Things Are: https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wild-Things-Maurice-Sendak/dp/0060254920 Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs: https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-maslow-hierarchy-of-needs Baby Camera: https://www.amazon.com/Monitor-5Display-Pan-Tilt-Zoom-Temperature-Lullabies/dp/B09GM8JZM9/ Hatch Lights: https://www.hatch.co/ The Expectant Father: https://www.amazon.com/Expectant-Father-Ultimate-Dads-Be/dp/0789212137 Lion King: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110357/ Honey I Shrunk The Kids: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097523/ — For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected]. For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com  Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit startupdadpod.substack.com