Kyle Lacy is the Chief Marketing Officer of Jellyfish—a platform that helps developers make data-backed decisions on resource investments. Across two decades he has built companies like Lessonly, Openview, Salesforce and ExactTarget. He’s also a husband and the father of two kids. In our conversation today we discussed: * Managing work, life and parenting appropriately * Handling stress across the different facets of your life * Dispelling the myth about separation of ‘church and state’ between family and work * Learning how to put your kids before yourself * The role of nature vs. nurture in parenting * The most important invention ever - the pee pee teepee * How most parenting advice is complete crap — Where to find Kyle Lacy * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylelacy * X: https://x.com/kyleplacy Where to find Adam Fishman * FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/ * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/ — In this episode, we cover: [1:33] Welcome [2:10] Kyle’s Professional background [4:26] What life was like growing up [6:12] Siblings [6:24] Do your siblings have give you parenting advice? [6:53] His family now and how he met his wife? [9:06] Are his kids back to school? [10:59] Decision to start a family [12:34] Work/life balance [15:27] Support network [17:23] Separation of “church and state” [19:58] Earliest memory after becoming a father? [22:43] Dads and emotions [24:11] Putting kids before yourself [26:37] Surprising aspect of fatherhood [28:18] Advice for younger Kyle? [29:55] Advice to ignore? [31:29] Fav book to read to kids [32:14] Nature vs. Nurture [33:27] Parenting frameworks [35:29] How Kyle’s parenting style evolved [38:02] Did parenting change you as a manager? [40:53] When do he and his partner not align [44:02] Kid’s relationship to tech [47:42] Mistake as a father? [48:33] Follow along [50:11] Rapid fire — Show references: Jellyfish:https://jellyfish.co/ ExactTarget (now Salesforce): https://www.salesforce.com/ Lessonly (now Seismic): https://seismic.com/lessonly/ OpenView: https://openviewpartners.com/ Sam Richard LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-crowell-richard/ Sam Richar Twitter: @SamCRichard Spokane, Washington: https://www.visittheusa.com/destination/spokane Indianapolis, Indiana: https://www.visittheusa.com/destination/indianapolis Anderson University: https://andersonuniversity.edu/ Twitter Marketing for Dummies: https://www.amazon.com/Twitter-Marketing-Dummies-Kyle-Lacy/dp/0470930578 Branding Yourself: How to Use Social Media to Invent or Reinvent Yourself by Erik Deckers & Kyle Lacy: https://www.amazon.com/Branding-Yourself-Social-Reinvent-Biz-Tech/dp/0789749726 CodeSweep (now HCL Software): https://www.hcl-software.com/appscan/products/appscan-codesweep Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ Orange Theory: https://www.orangetheory.com/en-us Greenlight: https://greenlight.com/ Linda Flanagan Episode: youtube.com/watch?v=YLqEX8lZeFI Pee pee tee pee: https://www.amazon.com/Peepee-Teepee-Sprinkling-WeeWee-Cellophane/dp/B000NM3DFY What to Expect When You’re Expecting: https://www.amazon.com/What-Expect-When-Youre-Expecting/dp/0761187480 Boston, MA: https://www.boston.gov/ Calvin & Hobbes: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Calvin-Hobbes-Bill-Watterson/dp/1449433251 Dogman: https://pilkey.com/series/dog-man Gemstone Dragons: https://www.samanthamclark.com/gemstone-dragons/ Diary of a Wimpy Kid: https://wimpykid.com/ Big Nate: https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Popularity-Nothing-Possibly-Strikes/dp/0062968610 Crocs: https://www.crocs.com/ Jibbitz: https://www.crocs.com/c/jibbitz Josh & Carla’s Episode: youtube.com/watch?v=YiaE6ZmaOIQ New Balance white shoes: https://www.newbalance.com/men/shoes/all-shoes/ Nike: https://www.nike.com/ Bush’s beans: https://www.bushbeans.com/en_US/ The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness by Jona