The Athletic's Raphael Honigstein is joined by Christoph Biermann and Jasmine Baba for their take on all the big stories across the Bundesliga and Champions League where German teams are concerned. We react to Bayern Munich coming from two goals down to defeat Borussia Dortmund and ponder whether Dortmund might actually walk away from this result feeling quite good about themselves? Plus we look at how Leipzig are shaping up ahead of their Champions League second-leg against a crisis-stricken Liverpool side, there's talk of a resurgent Hoffenheim side, and could Gladbach soon be forced to sack Marco Rose even though he has technically already left? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices