On this episode with Phil Lober, we talk about a range of subjects. From blacklisting to the delicate balance of knowing when a track is complete, Phil shares candid experiences and expertise. We explore the challenges and rewards of collaborating with a huge live orchestra, and gain fresh perspectives on achieving success in trailer music in these times. We also delve into unique insights like the surprising parallels between the game Kirby and the essence of success. Whether you're an aspiring musician or simply curious about the magic behind memorable soundscapes, this episode is dope!