As CEO of the Consumer Technology Association—which puts on the largest electronic show on the planet—Gary Shapiro has some serious clout. But Gary says that the way he came into his current position was “kind of amazing, in a way. It's almost like how many of us meet our spouses. It's just almost so random that it doesn't seem you could be so lucky.” Gary hasn’t relied on luck, however, to become a great leader. He’s put in the work, and he’s learned some incredible things that he shares with Dale Carnegie CEO Joe Hart on this episode of the Take Command podcast. Tune in to hear about why the risk-averse never succeed, the importance of meeting people where they are, and how the United Nations General Assembly came to name the “right to access technology” as a fundamental human security.