Nate & Ben are together, in the same room! with shiny lights! to discuss Ozzie Smith, Adam Wainwright's country foray, our new years plans, the Yamamoto signing and why the Cardinals were never really in it, Matsui and why it's good the Cardinals didn't beat the Padres deal, some quick Steamer observations, news from around the league, and much more!  Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.