Nate & Ben discuss the fishing trip, falling out of boats, BEES, SO MANY BEES, the Cardinals mediocre April, the rise of Alec Burleson (CHIEF BEEF), Goldy and his always bad April, the Cardinals overall lack of power and how to fix it, the killer trio at the end of the bullpen, Dylan Carlson's imminent return, the starting pitching and possible upcoming collapse, regressing to the mean, the upcoming series against the White Sox, the upcoming series against the Mets, and much more!  Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.