Nate is abroad for this weeks show and friend of the show Kyle Reis joins Ben!  They discuss the rough start to the season, Sonny Gray and the death of the machismo baseball player, what the Cardinals are doing well and not so well when it comes to developing pitchers.  They also chat about rising and falling prospects in the system, why the future may be brighter than we thought and if cereal is a soup?  #breakfestsoup Talking About Birds is listener support on Patreon, support the show and join our private discord server at: https://www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds