In this episode, world-renowned planting designer Piet Oudolf talks to Stephanie about the projects that have shaped his career and why he has never had time to dream . Discover why he enjoys creating gardens in the public realm more than private spaces, why he closed his nursery and garden and what he has planned for exciting upcoming projects, including the reimagining of his borders at RHS Garden Wisley.  Talking Gardens is created by the team at Gardens Illustrated magazine. Find lots more great garden inspiration and planting ideas, and subscribe, at www.gardensillustrated.com  Enjoyed this episode? Tell a friend, make sure to leave a review or comment, and let us know who you would next like to hear talking about their dream garden. Follow now so you never miss an episode.  Show notes Piet Oudolf at Work book  Piet Oudolf and Henk Gerritsen’s book Planting the Natural Garden - read our review here. Lurie Garden, Chicago The High Line, New York City RHS Wisley Glasshouse borders being replanted Camden Highline, London Future Plants New plant selected by Cassian Schmidt and Piet at Hermannshof is Schizachyrium scoparium 'Ha Ha Tonka' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices