Dr Miah Hammond-Errey is joined by the Hon Victor Dominello, former NSW Minister for Community Services and Digital Government. They discuss the potential and complexities of digital identification, what it means for democracies, and how to lead risk-averse organisations like government in a manner that promotes innovation and productivity and empowers decision-making. They also discuss AI regulation, building trust in technology between government, corporations and individuals, and what can be learnt from Estonia when it comes to digital service delivery. Across a 12-year term as cabinet minister, Victor helped modernise service delivery in the NSW Government across a set of portfolios, which included leading the development of the Services NSW app, the Digital Driver’s License and COVID-19 vaccine certificates. He now sits on the board of the Tech Council of Australia and is the Director of the UNSW-UTS Trustworthy Digital Society Hub. Technology and Security is hosted by Dr Miah Hammond-Errey, the inaugural director of the Emerging Technology program at the United States Studies Centre, based at the University of Sydney. Resources mentioned in the recording:  Trustworthy Digital Society Hub (UNSW–UTS) NSW Digital Driver Licence (Service NSW) Estonia must be Australia's digital ideal: NSW Finance Minister Victor Dominello (Victor Dominello, AFR) Collaboration with trusted allies and distrust in Chinese technology: American, Australian and Japanese views on technology (USSC Polling Explainer) Australia’s Digital Spine: Tech Council of Australia 2 March 2023 (Victor Dominello, LinkedIn) Compute capacity chokepoints offer a novel regulatory framework for AI (Miah Hammond-Errey, InnovationAus) Technology and Security (TS) podcast | Synthetic biotech, DARPA for intelligence and AI regulation with RAND CEO Jason Matheny (Miah Hammond-Errey, USSC) Exponential Organizations: Why new organizations are ten times better, faster, and cheaper than yours (and what to do about it) (Mike Malone, Salim Ismail and Peter H. Diamandis) Miah’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/Miah_HEThe USSC website: https://www.ussc.edu.au/ Making great content requires fabulous teams. Thanks to the great talents of the following.  Research support and assistance: Tom Barrett  Production: Elliott Brennan  Podcast Design: Susan Beale Music: Dr Paul Mac This podcast was recorded on the lands of the Gadigal people, and we pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging — here and wherever you’re listening. We acknowledge their continuing connection to land, sea and community, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.