How should Christians view authority and leadership in the church? How do we faithfully navigate the complexities of power structures?   Responding to the heartbreaking reality of abuse of power in the church, Jon Carlson, pastor of Forest Hills Mennonite Church and Moderator-Elect of Mennonite Church USA, joins Dru and Rebekah for a discussion drawing from Scripture, ministry experiences, Anabaptist history, and nonviolent theology. Check out bonus segments and regular updates here:...

With Titus recovering from his trip to India, the Midwesterners took over this episode to talk about entertainment, evil, and the power of story. Let us know what you think by reaching out on Facebook, WhatsApp, or on our Anchor page - we’d love to hear from you. Find bonus segments at our Patreon: patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thatjesuspodcast/message

Our very own Reverend Dru Lattin has become widely known for his propensity toward nuance. In order to set him straight, we invited Emily Smucker to share her thoughts about the famous Mennonite ditch analogy. Why do we always think we are in the middle of the road and everyone else is in the ditch? Is moderation and balance a Christian virtue? Tune in to hear centrism challenged and Titus' lack of teetotalism exposed.  Emily's work: https://www.patreon.com/search?q=Emily+smucker Support...

Rebekah Mui helped us interview Dr. Drew G. I. Hart, an activist, author, and professor, about critical race theory (CRT). Is CRT simply Marxist propaganda? Is it contrary to the Gospel and a Christian worldview? Tune in to hear Dr. Hart offer an informed historic perspective and tie in the importance of working to see justice for the marginalized. Dr. Hart's work: https://drewgihart.com Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast --- Send in a voice message:...

We are back with Season 4 of That Jesus Podcast! Dru & Titus catch up a bit and discuss their devotional lives and current ministry opportunities. Then, Austin Lapp joins Titus to discuss how followers of King Jesus are formed into the image of their King. SPOILER: it involves not staring at your phone so much (like you are doing right now). Austin sketched his complicated relationship to the spiritual disciplines and presented a compelling vision for discipleship.  Patreon:...

We look back at a few of our favorite episodes from Season Three, and share about our plans going forward. Titus again brings up his snoring bulldogs and Dru manages to sneak the word "epistemology" into a Christmas rant - twice. Vintage TJP.  Don't forget to fill out our Listener Survey: forms.gle/sQagkHjkw57eNcc26

It looks like Roe v Wade might get overturned next year thanks to Trump's Supreme Court nominations! Was Titus wrong all along for opposing white evangelicals' support of the Donald? Tune in to hear this and more current events discussed like the trial of Arbery's killers and the saga of a contested Confederate battle flag. Then, we discussed how important humility is in the life of a devoted disciple of Jesus.

Kimberly Kirtz, from Sattler College, joins Dru and Patrick to discuss all things college: Who should go? Are universities dens of wickedness? What about debt? And is Sattler the best option for everyone ever?  More about Sattler College here: sattlercollege.org

Justice is such an important part of the restoration of God's rule on earth. Today we are featuring a conversation that Rebekah Mui hosted over at the Kingdom Outpost. The three guests were our very own Titus Kuepfer,  Derek Kreider of the Fourth Way Podcast, and Joash Thomas, who is Canada's national director for the International Justice Mission, the largest anti-slavery organization in the world. They talked about the tension faced when nonviolent Christians are faced with situations...

Mennopolls is at it again, showing some of the dark underside of the conservative Anabaptism world. 10% of conservative Anabaptists seem to be okay with using the n-word to refer to black people. Titus rants about this despicable reality and a very white Dru adds his privileged perspective. Then, Titus makes a case for baptismal regeneration and Dru pushes back with his signature druance. Also discussed are the proper age and mode of baptism. Thanks to our listeners who submitted questions...

Dru and Titus discuss their experiences with observing the Lord's Table and tackle some practical questions about how we celebrate. But first, Titus entraps Dru into talking about CRT and racism and Dru admits he is white. Also, Dru admits he is white.  We'd LOVE your feedback on this topic, or anything else! Reach out on our Facebook with @thatjesuspod.

After catching up on the latest news about hundred-year-old Nazis, hundred-year-old priests, and 500 year old boats, we discuss Halloween and eating blood. Then, at 33:45, Dru talks ESL ministry with Sam, a veteran instructor passionate about using English teaching as a tool to fulfill the Great Commission.  Asia's Center for TESOL: actesol.com Reach out to Dru with any questions about TESOL - he'd be happy to help! https://www.patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast?fan_landing=true

Anthony Witmer, a friend from Titus' church, joined us to talk about the kidnapping of CAM workers in Haiti and the implications of using the term missionary to describe kingdom work overseas. Then we interviewed Gary Miller about his latest book: Reaching America. Gary described why it seems so hard to reach Americans with the Gospel in the 21st century and shared a few tips on how to overcome those barriers. Reaching America: https://tgsinternational.com/product/reaching-america/ Support...

Abram Martin joins us to report on his experience at the Revoice Conference. While Abram passionately shares about discipleship and diversity in the church, Dru and Titus try to distract him with apostrophes, John MacArthur slams, and snoring bulldogs.  Some resources from Abram:  What comes after the Ex-Gay Movement?   Gay vs. Same Sex Attraction You can also reach out to Abram at  [email protected].  Thanks to Hannah Lehigh for the featured art this week. 

It's Indigenous Peoples’ Day! Holly Helton, a member of the Ojibwe tribe, joined us to talk about the fraught relationship of Christianity with indigenous peoples throughout history. But before that, we covered some very morbid pieces of news and Pastor Dru cured Titus’ mental health issues. Our patreon where you can sow and reap mere health and wealth: patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast Julie Roys's interview with Naghmeh Abedini:...

In this packed edition of TJP, Dru shares a convo with Stephen Russell from Faith Builders about Scripture. They touch on the history of the church, tradition, community, and using the Chronicles of Narnia in family devotions. But before the interview, the crew has it out about religious exemptions for vaccines and Rebekah shares her latest opus on The Kingdom Outpost. Come for the new sound effects, stay for the mere devotion! Support Jazmine:...

Keeshon Washington and Emily Smucker joined us to discuss the potential benefits of consuming fiction, Josh McDowell's racist remarks and subsequent resignation, and how to effectively share the love of Jesus in the post-Christian West. Also, you will get a chance to hear Titus' creative genius at work in our new segment jingles. Keeshon's blog: https://urbanitemusingskw.wordpress.com Emily's blog: https://emilysmucker.com Follow us on FB! https://www.facebook.com/thatjesuspod

Dru and Emily review the disastrous consequences of fasting while driving, and then talk with Luci Kinsinger about her new book, Turtle Heart. We discuss boundaries and sacrifice in ministry, developing genuine relationships, not being a jerk about racism, and much more. Check out Turtle Heart here: lucindajkinsinger.com/turtle-heart-release/ You can find Emily’s blog here: emilysmucker.com

Joshua Lloyd Parker joined us to help Titus push back a bit on Dru's appearance with Joel Nisly on Strength to Strength. We talked about the IHOP-KC movement and discussed whether or not something is missing in our churches if we are not experiencing the supernatural.  If you have an interpretation for Titus' tongues at the beginning of the episode please let us know.

Today we are featuring a conversation that Rebekah Mui hosted over at the Kingdom Outpost with Dru Lattin, Tim Whittaker, and Jon Carlson. They discussed Christian nationalism, nonviolence, and more. We will be back next week with some fresh content!

Today: A conversation about the so-called New Apostolic Reformation. But first, Titus complains about boogeymen and shares a supernatural experience of his own.  The original discussion with Joel Nisly and Dru was hosted by Strength to Strength, a community that seeks to advance the Kingdom through sharing teaching, convos, and testimonies. Check out the full program - with Q/A - right here: strengthtostrength.org/revival-or-heresy-the-so-called-new-apostolic-reformation/ (Cover image for...

We discussed Titus' experience of revival at Kingdom Fellowship Weekend, the ongoing crisis in Afghanistan, Biden's blasphemies, and more. Then we were joined by a few of our friends--Emily Smucker, Kristi Mast, Tim Kuepfer, and Jon Quesenberry--to hear about their devotional lives. Also, you will get a chance to hear Titus sing a powerful line of anointed CCM music. 

Dru and Titus provide empowering thought leadership around superstition, lightning strikes, and the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan. Then, Stephen Russell shares his journey from Catholicism to embracing non-violence and joining the Beachy Amish.  Steve's book: https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Evil-Gods-Way-Nonresistance/dp/0981656900/ref=sr_1_2? The author of satirical book TJP does not necessarily recommend, on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MatthewEPierce 

If you ever get past deciphering the title you are in for a real treat today. Our friends Rebekah and Christopher joined us to push back on Titus' insensitivity in the last episode. We went long, just like your deconstruction should (unless you believe in reconstruction like Dru). Check out our sponsors: creativedesignsbyfern.com

Dru thinks it's serious, sometimes healthy, and rooted in French philosophers. Titus thinks it's a silly fad. But both of us think we should all spend more time praying together in New York City. Listen in as we share our stories of deconstruction.