Instructional designer and CEO of Anchored Training, Vanessa Alzate, joins me to chat about ways to realistically incorporate or pitch gamification in your ID projects. Vanessa is no stranger to keeping things real. In fact, it's one of the core values of her freelance instructional design business. Vanessa's advice for keeping gamification realistic is to start small. Another big tip is to consider your audience. For instance, not everyone responds well to a leaderboard, but sales people might love it!  You can connect with Vanessa on LinkedIn, find her on Youtube, or listen to her Anchored in Learning podcast.  --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thatsawesomeid/message