In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Xochitl and Jack discuss the question: Is cheating in a relationship ever justified? Transcript: 00:00:00 Jack Hey, A is the English podcast listeners. It's Jack here and we just want to announce that we are now on WeChat. Our WeChat ID is A-Z English podcast that is A-Z English podcast, one word all lowercase. 00:00:17 Jack And if you. 00:00:18 Jack Join the group. You will be able to talk with me. You'll be able to. 00:00:22 Jack Talk with social. 00:00:23 Jack And we can answer your questions. We can read your comments on the podcast. So we'd love for you to join us and be active in our we chat group. Our WeChat ID is A-Z English podcast. Thanks. See you on the app. 00:00:49 Jack Welcome to the Ados English podcast. My name is Jack and I'm here with my co-host social. And today we have a topic talk and social. Today's topic is a little scandalous. The question is, can cheating in a romantic relationship ever be justified? 00:01:07 Jack Should the couple try to work through it, or is the trust permanently broken? 00:01:15 Xochitl Uh, I really don't think it's ever justified. I personally have never cheated, so I don't understand. 00:01:24 Xochitl It's a decision, too, I hate when people say that it's a mistake. I don't think it's a mistake. It's a choice that people actively made and you have to live with the consequences of that choice. And I think, like, if you do want to try to work through it, then the person who cheated needs to be willing to really put in the majority of the work. 00:01:31 Jack Right. 00:01:45 Xochitl And. 00:01:47 Xochitl Needs to be willing. 00:01:48 Xochitl To see that there are going to be pretty big consequences like the that person is not going to trust you. Like for a good long while. And I I think that's perfectly acceptable and absolutely normal. It'd be kind of weird if they suddenly did trust you, you know. 00:02:05 Jack Yeah, I. 00:02:06 Xochitl Again, you've been good. 00:02:09 Jack Oh, sorry, I I I really hate it. When. When? 00:02:13 Jack Like cheaters, say something like UM. 00:02:16 Jack Well, you weren't paying attention to me or you weren't being attentive as a as a partner. And so I started looking in, you know, other places to get my needs met or whatever and that sort of kind of nonsense, you know, it's like I I think this is one of those. 00:02:19 Xochitl Ah. 00:02:36 Jack Rare occasions where it's like 100 zero, you know, like it's yeah, it's it's 100% the cheaters fault and they they have to take full. 00:02:49 Jack Responsibility for their actions. I I don't think there can be any Hemming and hawing about it. It's it's, you know, I I think it's such a it's such a red flag when when a cheater starts trying to push the blame onto. 00:03:10 Jack His or her partner for you know, making. 00:03:13 Jack Me do that it. It reminds me of, like, domestic violence, right where the domestic abuser tries to blame the, you know, you know, I I don't. I didn't want to hit you. But you make me so angry, you know, and and that that's that's that's just nonsense. 00:03:18 Xochitl Ma'am. 00:03:30 Xochitl Right, yeah. 00:03:34 Jack Like, that's just garbage logic and so. 00:03:38 Jack Yeah, I I just, I just don't. Yeah. 00:03:40 Xochitl Yeah, I think I I'll go. I'll go a step further here and say that cheating is definitely a form of abuse because you have to be lying to cheat. And lying is emotional abuse by definition. 00:03:55 Xochitl So yeah, in some ways you're gaslighting your partner. You're, uh, hiding information from them. You're lying to them. You're invalidating them constantly because you're trying to make them think that they're crazy when you're cheating so that they don't hold you accountable for your actions, and you're blaming them and and shaming them. And it just. 00:04:17 Xochitl It's toxic and it is abusive in in the context. And I yeah, I just really, really am against cheating. 00:04:27 Jack Yeah, I like he said. That's a fo