The view we hold of the future has a direct impact on the plans we make and the action we take in the present, so it's very relevant to strategic planning and goal setting. Frank Spencer is a futurist - but with a perspective that goes far beyond technology, openly questioning the dominant narrative of technological determinism. Frank is the founder of TFSX, offering training, consulting and certification in strategic foresight.  In this conversation we talk about what Frank calls the "sheer preposterousness of the future," i.e. why we can't just extend current trends into an imagined future. Frank talks about the Pull of the Future, abductive thinking, and why we need a better acronym than VUCA to understand how to act in the face of complexity. Ultimately, the best way to create a better future is through the evolution of our shared consciousness. And what about the role of artificial intelligence? We talk about the Habsburg AI factor that undermines the trustworthiness of AI today and compromises its usefulness for out of the box creative thinking.