Summary The conversation revolves around the recently proposed law called the Living Wage for Musicians Act of 2024. The hosts discuss their support for the law and their belief that streaming services should charge more to compensate artists fairly. They explore the details of the proposed law, including the creation of a fund funded by streaming companies and the potential impact on subscription fees. The conversation also touches on the role of record labels and the challenges faced by artists in the current music industry. Overall, the hosts express a desire for a more equitable system that supports musicians and allows them to make a living from their art. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Pearl Jam Mention 00:36 Discussion of the Living Wage for Musicians Act 04:39 Initial Reactions to the Bill 06:05 Desire for Higher Streaming Prices 07:29 Impact on Streaming Services and Record Labels 09:01 Concerns about Arbitrary Rules and Artist Compensation 12:22 Potential Challenges and Unintended Consequences 16:23 Impact on Record Labels and Artist Compensation 27:02 Origin Story and Messiness of the Music Industry 29:11 Defending Streaming Services and Artists' Responsibility