Summary In this conversation, Craig and Andrew discuss their experiences with running and the challenges they face in training as older men. They also explore the topic of music criticism and how it can impact one's enjoyment of music. They reflect on their own experiences as sports bloggers and how it affected their love for sports. The conversation then shifts to the Beach Boys and their evolution as a band, as well as the influence of TV shows on music. In this conversation, Craig and Andrew discuss various topics including TV shows, fictional bands, and recent Pearl Jam concert cancellations. They reminisce about popular shows like Beverly Hills 90210 and discuss the impact of after-school special messages in 90s TV shows. They also mention fictional bands from movies like Almost Famous and That Thing You Do. The conversation then shifts to the recent illness in the Pearl Jam band and the cancellation of their shows. They express concern for Eddie Vedder's vocal health and discuss the impact of these cancellations on future tours. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Half Marathon Training 03:07 Professionalizing a Hobby 08:48 The Impact of Professionalizing a Hobby 27:34 The Evolution of the Beach Boys 29:55 The Influence of TV Shows on Music 37:05 Concerns for Eddie Vedder's Vocal Health 45:06 The Impact of Concert Cancellations on Future Tours