In Episode 77 – recorded at HeadStuf HQ during the Vodafone Comedy Festival– Alison talks to comedian and writer Jena Friedman about interviewing John McAfee, sexual harassment in gaming, cannibal cops, writing for David Letterman and Jon Stewart, TERFs and slipping into fascism, fighting for your pints and an abbreviated history of the American Girl doll. Alison Spittle does stand-up comedy all the time because there’s no money in it. See alisonspittle.com (http://alisonspittle.com/) or her Twitter (https://twitter.com/AlisonSpittle) for the latest. Catch her at the Edinburgh Fringe (https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/alison-spittle-mother-of-god) this August. Watch Soft Focus with Jena Friedman here (https://www.channel4.com/programmes/soft-focus-with-jena-friedman) and get tickets to Jena’s Edinburgh run, Miscarriage of Justice, at this link (https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/jena-friedman-miscarriage-of-justice) . Follow her on Twitter (https://twitter.com/JenaFriedman) for more upcoming gigs. Thanks to HeadStuff.Org for hosting our podcast. They have a Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/HeadStuff?ty=h) page. Please support them. If you enjoyed the podcast, do us a favour and leave a rating. It’s a big help. Catch you next time. Flamingo artwork designed by William Conway, email [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) . Theme tune by No Monster Club.