Mary Jo Rogers is a trained clinical psychologist who developed her interest workforce safety cultures and leadership in the nuclear power sector while consulting and working for ComEd (later Exelon). At the time she began her work, ComEd was a perennially under-performing utility with new leaders that were committed to turning it into the best nuclear plant operator in the United States. That leadership team included Oliver Kingsley and Chris Crane at the operating level and John Rowe at the corporate level. Dr. Rogers learned many lessons in leadership, and safety culture and observed the way that implementing strong programs that protected workers also helped to improve operational performance. She took those lessons with her to a major consulting group that served the entire nuclear industry. She wrote a book titled Nuclear Energy Leadership: Lessons Learned from U.S. Operators and founded Rogers Leadership Group which provides safety culture and leadership consulting to organizations in a variety of potentially hazardous industries. Mary Jo visited the Atomic Show to share her perspectives on the importance of leadership in creating a high performance organization. We talked about the relationship between safety culture and operational excellence along with the question of whether one has to make tradeoffs between safety culture and cost culture. You will enjoy this episode. Please participate in the comment section.