In this episode of Living an Awakened Life, Susan sits down with fellow Awareness Podcast host Jenny Beal to discuss  Jenny’s own spiritual journey and the misunderstandings she encountered along the way How awakening is not a state that can be achieved What it really means to live in not-knowing What stands in the way of knowing the peace and happiness of our true nature in this moment How much effort is required on the spiritual path Susan and Jenny’s own experiences of trying coming to an end in radical waysHow saying “I know I'm pure consciousness” is actually a block.  What is meant by “life as celebration”Jenny offers a guided experience to give listeners a direct experience of the effortlessness of non-objective meditation and discusses her series of 4 Masterclasses on Living in Not-Knowing which begin on Monday 7th August.    Support the showIf you are interested in exploring spiritual awakening, we invite you to register for our free 7 Days to Awakening self study course, created by Lisa Natoli and Bill Free. Learn more about the The Awareness Podcast and access show notes for every episode at: www.teachersofgod.org/podcast Learn more about The Teachers of God Foundation at: www.teachersofgod.org Original music by Omashar