In this episode, Jenny and her guest Ellen Emmet explore the interplay between the vertical, here-and-now dimension of the spiritual path, and our human experience in space and time. They discuss: The role of exploration of the body in the spiritual pathWhether freedom, truth and authenticity are prerequisites for happinessBody-mind conditioning as universal patterns of the mental realm, analogous to the patterns of the physical realm that are the subject of scienceDealing with traumaWhen shadow-work is neededHow to protect ourselves from developing ‘spiritual ego’The importance of spiritual friendshipsThe podcast ends with Ellen describing how difficult circumstances in her life have resulted in a surrender to not-knowing and an understanding that surrender is not-knowing. Support the showIf you are interested in exploring spiritual awakening, we invite you to register for our free 7 Days to Awakening self study course, created by Lisa Natoli and Bill Free. Learn more about the The Awareness Podcast and access show notes for every episode at: www.teachersofgod.org/podcast Learn more about The Teachers of God Foundation at: www.teachersofgod.org Original music by Omashar