In this episode of The Better Sex Podcast, I talk with pioneering erotic bodywork educator Joseph Kramer, PhD. Joseph shares his transformative journey from academia to becoming a leading teacher of erotic massage and sexual embodiment. In this conversation, we delve into how pornography– which is often seen as ‘bad’-- can be used as a tool to learn the art of touch in your relationship.  Along the way, we chat about methods for increased body awareness during self-pleasure, how to enhance erotic experience through breath and presence, and the value of experiencing all kinds of touch… even beyond the erotic. Joseph and I also discuss the legal recognition of sexological bodywork and its significance in innovative sex education, especially in light of health crises.  This conversation dives deep into the power of getting to know your own body and desire to enhance pleasure with some useful tools to facilitate this exploration. Connect with Joseph www.sexologicalbodywork.com/links EroticMassage.com OrgasmicYoga.com https://www.facebook.com/joseph.kramer.10/ Connect with Deborah Got questions about sex and relationship?  Podcast Feedback [email protected] Book a breakthrough session with Deborah Sexual Mastery Breakthrough Session Sex and Relationship tips direct to you Inbox  Stay Connected Pillow Talk Newsletter  Practice and experimentation  Better Sex Membership