In this conversation, Kelly and Ashley discuss the impact of Western culture on parenting and home education. They explore the importance of slowing down, being present, and meeting our own needs as parents, the role of technology and the challenges of balancing screen time with other activities and the need to observe and appreciate our children's natural behaviours and to create a home education / homeschooling environment that allows for flexibility and individuality. Overall, they encourage parents to prioritize pleasure, connection, and self-care in their homeschooling journey.   Key words: Western culture, parenting, homeschooling, home education, slowing down, presence, needs, technology, screen time, observation, flexibility, individuality, pleasure, connection, self-care