The term "biodiversity" is thrown around and inserted into conversations all the time. But when one person says biodiversity, is the full meaning of the term conveyed to anybody listening? Dr. Holly Parsons from Birdlife Australia (Birds In Backyards) is joined by Jacinta Humphrey, a PhD candidate at LaTrobe University in Melbourne. Her research focuses on the impacts of urban development on birds at the landscape scale. Holly and Jacinta kick around a lot of the issues that are picked up in any discussion about biodiversity in an urban setting with Grant. Did we reach any consensus? BTW Sign the petition - it's urgent, and it pertains to the Blue-billed Ducks that we referenced in the show. https://www.kes.org.au/home/campaigns/lakeknox   You can watch the unedited conversation for the show, and see the upcoming interviews live at thebirdemergency.com/live Subscribe to on The Bird Emergency on YouTube Follow The Bird Emergency on Twitter @birdemergency or Instagram @thebirdemergency  If you enjoy the show, how about share with your friends or colleagues?  https://followthepodcast.com/birdemergency Or you can review us at https://lovethepodcast.com/birdemergency And if you want to support what Grant is doing with the show, why not buy him a coffee? (It's currently a flat soy with no sweeteners.) https://www.buymeacoffee.com/birdemergency