Here is a bonus for you - audio of the live stream where Grant spoke with Dr. Michael Mulvaney about the (recently listed as Endangered) Gang-gang Cockatoo, and community efforts, by the Red Hill Regeneration Group in Canberra to assist it, as well as some interesting observations that have been collected via Citizen Science projects. Grant and Michael were joined by Ellen Rykers, award winning science writer, from Forest and Bird in Aotearoa New Zealand about the BIrd Of The Year (which was announced on that morning!) Find out which species won the title, and a little more about it, and the work Forest And Bird does in New Zealand.  There is also a nice association between Ellen and the Gang-gang Cockatoo. Follow Ellen on Twitter here or check out her website. Follow Forest And Bird on Twitter. If you want to see The Bird Emergency interviews as they happen, bookmark thebirdemergency.com/live Follow The Bird Emergency on Twitter @birdemergency or Instagram @thebirdemergency and we are beginning on Mastodon, because, you know, Elon. You can support the show by making a contribution by buying Grant a coffee here - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/birdemergency If you enjoy the show, how about share with your friends or colleagues?  https://followthepodcast.com/birdemergency Or you can review us at https://lovethepodcast.com/birdemergency If you want to see interviews before they make into into the podcast feed, check out the YouTube channel, where the interviews are usually posted first.