This is one of my most exciting episodes (I say this about every episode!) with two very accomplished mental health social workers, Laurie Johnson-Mathison and Jan-Michael McIntosh. Laurie completed his undergraduate degree in psychology and wanted to continue to study to become a clinical psychologist; however, when working in practical mental health settings he then became more interested in the practical part of direct client work. He then went ahead to pursue a career in mental health social work with the fast track programme called Think Ahead - which is mental health social work scheme.  Jan completed his first degree in history and then after some years of practical work experience, he completed an intense psychology conversion course before embarking on the Think Ahead programme to become a mental health social worker. This is where Laurie and Jan met. They also run a successful social enterprise called the Knack Box with their co- founder Elly who also trained as a mental health social worker. The Knack Box is a monthly craft subscription box and you can check it out here.