A wonderful conversation about life through rowing with Havilah Hawkins: schooner captain, boat designer and builder, youth sailing educator, master shipwright, and zen bottom paint scraper extraordinaire.  Second in our multi-part series from Brooklin Boat Yard in Brooklin, Maine.  This conversation happened spontaneously in the midst of John Maxwell's amazing tour.  We came around the stern of a shapely classic daysailer in the shop and Havilah was kind enough to pause his work and chat. Thank you for listening!