In this thought-provoking and spirited episode, Matthew Ridge and David Ring tackle some of the most topical and controversial issues of our time. From the spectacle of the Olympic opening ceremony to the complexities of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI), they explore how societal norms are shifting and what that means for us all. With a mix of humour and raw honesty, they dive into the representation of minorities, the challenges of identity, and the impact of these changes on everyday life. This episode is a candid discussion on the balance between inclusion and merit, the implications of cancel culture, and the personal stories that shape their perspectives. Tune in for a nohumours-barred conversation that is as engaging as it is eye-opening. Takeaways Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) has become a controversial topic, with concerns about tokenism and the exclusion of certain groups. The importance of discussing and questioning societal norms and current events. Meritocracy is important in sports, as it ensures that athletes are selected based on their skills and abilities rather than their identity. Understanding Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and its impact on society. The balance between inclusion and merit-based systems. How identity and societal expectations shape our experiences and views. The role of sports as a meritocracy and its resistance to corruption. ⁠The need for open, honest discussions about controversial and challenging topics. ⁠⁠The conversation highlights the importance of open dialogue and questioning the current state of DEI to ensure fairness and inclusivity for all. Keywords: diversity, equity, inclusion, DEI, societal norms, identity, meritocracy, sports, representation, cancel culture, current events, personal stories, humour, raw honesty, inclusion, merit, conversation, podcast