Change is incredibly complex and like a jigsaw with intricate pieces that all have to fit together.  Where do we start?  At the edges, in the middle?  We all know that we need to do something and ultimately, make a difference to those around us, whoever they may be. Dr Louise Bright is joined by Kate Cooper, Head of Research, Policy and Standards at The Institute of Leadership and Management. She is a Keynote Speaker, Researcher and Forbes Blogger.  In this episode, we discuss what new challenges and approaches leaders should lookout for, so their people and organisations can thrive in the post-pandemic world.