Starting the new year with this fifth episode, we pause, to reflect what is going on at present, with rural and urban planning, particularly with the pandemic in our midst, to chat with Niall Cussen, Office of the Planning Regulator (OPR) and Jane Hackett, Manager of both Green-Schools Travel and the Climate Ambassador Programme. We discuss concepts like the 15 Minute City, Doughnut economics, while also chatting about sustainable transport options and looking into the future, to find out what a sustainable Ireland might look like for our everyday lives, as we go about living in our urban and rural settings. Both speakers provide lots of solutions and give a positive outlook about where we are headed as a country.