In this episode Shane takes some time at the end of the European Cold Chain Conference in Rotterdam to reflect on how the UK, European and international cold chain is set up to cope with the current economic and regulatory challenges facing the industry. Matt talks about his background working in non-profit business membership organisations before GCCA and how he sees the future of the organisation he took over leadership, just as the world entered the pandemic.  They also talk about the big announcement of a new partnership between GCCA and CCF that will bring new value to their respective members and new opportunities in the future.