This episode features an interview with Dr. Rachelle Ornan, Director of Cabin Research and Passenger Experience and Associate Technical Fellow for Boeing Commercial Airplanes, specializing in the experience and design of commercial aircraft interiors. Before planes, she worked on spacecraft as a Human Factors Engineer and Industrial Designer for NASA. We talk with Rachelle about idealized design, balancing art and science, and what it takes to create a peaceful space to house the stress of travel.