This special episode in partnership with Jacob Jonas The Company's platform The Thought features a conversation between two arts-world disruptors. Daniel Ezralow, a prolific choreographer and director, and Gypsy Snider, a co-founder and artistic director of the creative collective The 7 Fingers, have built careers that span the non-profit and for-profit sectors. They discuss the pros and cons of those two models as they apply to dance and performance—and how they might be reimagined to better meet the needs of today’s artists.