In this episode of the Death Dhamma podcast, we speak to Reverend Christine Davies, a hospital chaplain, writer, and an 'evangelist for grief'. Christine is also well-versed in cognitive behavioral therapy, Reiki, and is a seminary professor. Besides her professional interests, she is also a triathlete and a beekeeper.   Christine shares her thoughts on suffering and how she views her main calling, which is to be with others who are suffering. She talks about her work as a hospital chaplain, teaching students and clergy on how to be at the bedside of someone who is suffering or dying. She also provides spiritual direction to individuals, helping them deepen their own spiritual life and ask larger questions that society doesn't always allow for.   One of the central themes of this episode is the idea of suffering and the human condition, which Christine relates to spiritual distress. She talks about how suffering comes from a sense of disconnection, either with oneself, other people, or something transcendent. This concept is explored in depth, with Christine differentiating between adversity and suffering.   A personal story is shared by Christine about her health struggles and how it led her to the path she is on now. She discusses how her journey through hospitalizations, guesswork, trial and error with medications, and eventually a diagnosis of generalized epilepsy, shaped her understanding of suffering and deepened her desire to help others navigate through their own experiences of suffering.   This episode is a deep dive into the nature of suffering, the importance of spiritual care, and the immense value of providing a space for individuals to voice their feelings and make sense of their experiences. It illustrates how personal experiences can shape our professional paths and deepen our understanding of the human condition.