Israeli investigative journalist and New York Times writer, Ronen Bergman, joins Jason Greenblatt to discuss his recent article in the NY Times Magazine about the NSO’s Pegasus software. The two discuss whether the safety it can provide is worth the harm it could cause. If it is too powerful a tool, and who should be able to access to it. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.