In this episode of The Diversity Gap podcast, Bethaney welcomes her good friend, Kelly Hubbell-Hinton to the show. Kelly works at the intersection of social work, philanthropy, youth development and racial justice. Her perspective is deeply informed by her experience as a woman and member of the Doone'e people, born into the Near the Water clan and for the Black Sheep people. In this honest and sincere conversation, Bethaney and Kelly talk about everything from working in a "flat" organizational culture to learning how to find and amplify one's own voice.