This was a completely surprising interview in which our guest, Russ Gonnering, MD, joined us in a wholly unplanned deep dive into the nature, quality, and origin of the evil we face in the world today. None of us are elaborate theologians, and certainly not professional philosophers or ethicists.   This is a personal discussion with spontaneity and personal disclosures that take us outside the boxes in search of reality and truth. All three of us have been driven to think about these issues by the deteriorating conditions of the world today. The discussion, started by Dr. Gonnering’s stimulating opening observations in the interview, dovetails with the opening chapter of our new book (which we are currently working on).   This interview could help deal with the shock so many of us have experienced at facing how corrupt and malicious the leaders in America and the world have become. It could also help you feel understood by other people. It might clarify some of your deepest musings about living life in the face of evil. You may even find great sustenance in our shared thoughts and values. You will definitely enjoy and benefit from meeting Russ Gonnering, whose substack is https://substack.com/@russellgonnering.   As always, thanks so much for listening. We will be back next week!     Learn more about Dr. Peter Breggin's work: https://breggin.com/   See more from Dr. Breggin's long history of being a reformer in psychiatry: https://breggin.com/Psychiatry-as-an-Instrument-of-Social-and-Political-Control   Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, the how-to manual @ https://breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/   Get a copy of Dr. Breggin's latest book: WHO ARE THE “THEY” - THESE GLOBAL PREDATORS? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR PLANS FOR US? HOW CAN WE DEFEND AGAINST THEM? Covid-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey Get a copy: https://www.wearetheprey.com/   “No other book so comprehensively covers the details of COVID-19 criminal conduct as well as its origins in a network of global predators seeking wealth and power at the expense of human freedom and prosperity, under cover of false public health policies.”   ~ Robert F Kennedy, Jr Author of #1 bestseller The Real Anthony Fauci and Founder, Chairman and Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense.