Max and Donatienne first discuss Ursula von der Leyen’s visit to Kyiv and German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock’s call for bold EU reforms. Then, they are joined for an ‘exit interview’ with Stavros Lambrinidis, Ambassador of the European Union to the United States, as his time in Washington, DC comes to a close.  Learn more:   Russian Roulette | CSIS Podcasts