Doc welcomes Devin Townsend to the show and they talk about Devin's creative process, how his skills as an engineer and producer factor into his writing process, how having children have humbled him, getting his start in the music business with Steve Vai, how that experience led him to start Strapping Young Lad, how he landed the deal with Century Media Records, the undemocratic nature of Strapping Young Lad's writing process. This episode features the songs "Dead Winter Fields" by Symphony of Heaven and "Moonpeople" by Devin Townsend. Follow Doc on Instagram and Twitter @DocCoyle Follow Devin on Instagram and Twitter @dvntownsend Please support this show's sponsor Symphony of Heaven at symphonyofheaven.bandcamp.com Listen to more great podcasts like this at soundtalentmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices