Jamie McMillan, founder of Made in the Trades and Kick Ass Careers, is a Canada-based advocate for the skilled trades industry. She discusses her journey in the trades, her efforts to promote diversity and inclusion in the industry, and her work in schools and communities across Canada. Jamie also talks about her coloring book project that aims to educate children about different career opportunities in the trades, including ironworkers, boilermakers, construction workers, and welders. The conversation also touches on various topics such as the challenges faced by women in the trades, the importance of authenticity, the need for a change in workplace culture, and recognizing workers who struggle with Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and ADHD. Jamie also mentions her plans to travel and promote the trades in different communities. At the top, co-host and Canadian Fabricating & Welding Editor Rob Colman, talks about his family connection to the late Bill Kobayashi, who is credited with modernizing bubble/table hockey. This is the second of four episodes recorded at FABTECH Canada in Toronto. Email us at [email protected] with any comments, questions, or suggestions.