Mike DeVries joins us from a wintery Michigan in advance of what may be his final construction visit to the 7 Mile Beach Golf Development that he is currently building for Mat Goggin in Hobart, Tasmania. We discuss his early influences at Crystal Downs in Michigan, restoration work at the Meadow Club, The Addington & Royal Dublin. We take a quick look at both the Addington in London and the 7MB project, get an elevator pitch for golf in Michigan and finally Mike shares some of his bucket list golf courses and golf book recommendations. We hope you enjoy our chat. Please find a few links below relating to some of the book recommendations mentioned towards the end of the episode: The MacKenzie Reader - edited by Joshua Pettit Paul Daley's series, entitled Golf Architecture : A Worldwide Perspective , now extends to 7 Volumes, some of which are available through Fine Golf Books. Volume 7 can also be purchased directly form Paul Daley (email him at : [email protected]). Earlier editions can also often be found through pre-owned book resellers such as Abebooks, World of Books or Thrift Books. Intro and outro music - _Shoreline Serenade by Dye O _- under license from Epidemic Sound Special Guest: Mike DeVries.