There's a brand new media minister confronting a longstanding problem: how to handle the relationship between big tech and local media. Former NZ Herald editor Gavin Ellis and SPADA president Irene Gardiner join Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss a bold new idea: a joint levy to fund journalism and culture. We'd love it if you're able to take a few minutes to fill out this short survey about The Fold so we can learn more about our listening community and what you'd like to hear on this series. Please click here to fill out the survey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices