"We're making licenses and regulations worthless." So says Washington Post journalist Gus Garcia-Roberts. And you know what, he may have a point. In conversation with Jon, Gus delves into the scandal involving baseball player Shohei Otani, his interpreter, and a bookie named Matt Boyer. The conversation explores the role of casinos in money laundering and the lack of regulation and enforcement in the gambling industry. They also touch on the cultural impact of sports betting and the interconnectedness of the legal and illegal gambling sectors. The conversation explores the changing landscape of sports fandom and the impact of sports betting. It discusses the broadening desire for content related to sports betting and the integration of gambling into sports culture. The conversation also touches on the challenges of regulating sports betting and the need for education and responsible gambling practices. The power dynamics between sports leagues, casinos, and tribes are examined, highlighting the influence of money and the complexities of the industry.  In a nutshell: The journalism industry has undergone significant changes, with many news organizations struggling and smaller newspapers dying off. Casinos have a responsibility to monitor their customers and prevent money laundering, but there are concerns about their complicity in illegal activities. The rise of sports betting has led to cultural changes and increased interest in sports among the general public. There is a need for stronger regulation and enforcement in the gambling industry to prevent illegal activities and protect consumers. The legal and illegal gambling sectors are interconnected, raising questions about the integrity of the industry as a whole. The rise of sports betting has broadened the desire for sports-related content. Sports fandom has changed, with fans now engaging in betting and considering odds. The integration of gambling into sports culture raises integrity and addiction concerns. Regulating sports betting requires educating players and establishing responsible gambling practices. Power dynamics between sports leagues, casinos, and tribes impact the industry. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about personal appearances.   Choice quotes: "How complicit were the casinos in money laundering?" "We've all become little bookies." "The mistake that they made was going in swinging their dicks." "The tribes gave those tribes a common enemy."