Rowan and Bec are back and coming to you from home. Today we look back on some old interviews from the Better Together Conference in Jan, and catch up of how we and the world are going. We feature the music of Rae Spoon, anon-binary artist from Canada whose been in the scene since the 90s and whose musical style has since varied from pop and country to folk punk and electronic-influenced indie rock. (Recorded April 12, 2020)