Kyle and Wayne continue to probe through the mind and heart of Tobie van der Westhuizen, from Bloemfontein, South Africa, a self-described reclusive philosopher. What he has discovered in the Scriptures may just be the completion to what Martin Luther began. If true, the Gospel becomes a much fuller expression of God's work in the world than to just save people from guilt or hell. This is the kingdom come!  Wayne and Kyle have been enjoying this conversation and want to invite you to contemplate his observations as well.  Part 1 began last week. If you haven't heard it, you will probably want to start there. Podcast Notes: * We're sorry, but there was no video recording of this podcast. * Part 1 of this conversation * Tobie's NaturalChurch Blog and Email * URGENT! Helping the Orphanage in Kenya * Join the God Journey After-Show on September 28, 2024. It will stream live on The God Journey Facebook page at 11:00 am Pacific Daylight Time, and be available after for any who want to hear it.  If you'd like to be part of the conversation in the Zoom room, please email Wayne in advance to get the link. (This is a change from our previously announced date of September 21.) * Read Wayne's newest book:  It's Time